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Do active JW's on this forum still practice shunning?
by Thechickennest in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
just wondering if active jw's on this forum or jw's just watching this board still put into practice in one way or another, shunning?.

what is the motivation do so?

is it to save face or relationships?
agent zero

although still "active", i now no longer believe in shunning because i've come to see df'ds as mostly good people that simply had different opinions then are set out by the WTS, or their own way of seeing things which to me is perfectly normal.
this being said, i have little or no contact with df'ds (other then on this board) now because most of the ones i know have been out so long that i just don't have any contact with them anymore anyways. i also found that if you do happen to come across one, they're pretty much just as awkward about it because they've been on the other side and know what it's (supposed to be) like. in the case however that one is willing to talk and all, i have no problem with that, i'll be equally open and receptive.
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The Revelation book
by donny in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have heard the revelation book is being studied for the 4th time since it's release in 1988. we studied it once before i left in 1992. is it the same edition or has it been revised a few times?
agent zero

there's quite some changes, most are updated figures from 2006, other's are more interesting changes.
for a complete analysis of the changes see V's post here:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/118235/1.ashx
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THIS, my friends is KILLING the Watchtower Society....RIGHT NOW!
by RedPill2006 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
canadian archaelogist zhichun jing, writing about the decline of the highly creative shang dynasty, said "...after a century the shang vitality slackened.

the initial diversity and creativity devolved into a dull sameness.

by the end we see that things like their pottery, architecture and artwork had become standardized and simplified.
agent zero

The Watchtower LAWYERS have everything in place so that when the last of the original dinosaurs die, they will divide the WTS fortune among themselves in my opinion. It won't be long now. The end is near.
that would be something!! what do you base it on though?
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why are you an apostate for asking a question?
by paybacktime19 in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
agent zero

Just as long as you seek out the answer in Watchtower literature or with the elders, and immediately accept the reply as a full-stop answer
just like in the sister talks. householder says "i dont really understand this or that", other person reads a scripture, householder says "oh ok, yup, makes perfect sense now". but if you dont accept the answer, or even if you're simply ok with the question staying a question and that you dont really think there's an answer to it.. then yeah, that just don't fly with them.
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i cant stand it anymore!
by bite me in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the vocabulary!

the word "truth" literally makes me sick!

let me give you a quick behind the scene.
agent zero

ya especially in the context "so-and-so is in the truth"......... truth isn't a place or an object, its a concept.. you cant be IN it. at least say "in the true religion" or something. same with "i'm a jehovah's witness" it doesn't work, it's "one of" or "witness of jehovah"
my personal rotten word is PRIVILEGE. privilege this privilege that, he has many privileges, reach out for privileges. passing the mic's: privilege. our turn to clean the hall: privilege. cleaning privilege?? WTF?
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My Story - Part 3
by Jeremy C in
1. jw
2. experiences
my story - part 1. my story - part 2. in my previous thread (part 2) i stated that i would talk about my experience as a regular pioneer in this thread.

all of them took a special interest in me and gave me encouragement.

i told him i would think about it.
agent zero

excellently described J, i can relate to almost all of it. perhaps one day when i have the time, i will write my own history.
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explaining mexico-malawi
by agent zero in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
i was trying to explain the mexico-malawi thing to someone without saying any direct accusations like "they're just after the real estate" or "they needed some big-publicity persecution"(because that would just shut the door on that convo.

) but i told all the basic facts, about not being registered as a religion in mexico and all that.

.....here's some of the response i got:.
agent zero

One could almost compare it with the kind of information that the state run news services of the Soviet Union would present to their citizens
true that!
You may want to begin gradually, by presenting some seeming innocent information that might begin to open their minds.
seems like that will have to be the way. maybe mexico-malawi is too heavy of a blow to someone who still sees FDS as holy.
progress: today said person was "looking up the thing about mexico on the internet"!
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JW STYLE COMEDY.
by whereami in
1. jw
2. friends
more emails making the rounds.. .

the district conventions are right around the corner.

85-90 percent of "all scouting" done is done here.
agent zero

haa i got that email too! i shook my head at each part
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how many insiders?
by agent zero in
1. jw
2. experiences
hi everyone, i'm new here, been viewing the board for a while, decided to join yesterday.. so i'm about 95% convinced now the wts is bogus, but i'm still in coz as yall know leaving is the hardest part.

i plan on doing a fade to avoid the complete disconnection, but first want to gradually help my gf to see things too.

in the meantime, i'm just wondering how many of you are still "active" jdubs?
agent zero

I am an elder. How about that?
i want to be in your cong :P
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The SHOW must go on!!!
by leaving-jws in
1. jw
2. experiences
i remember when i was a kid in "the truth.

there was an elderly sister that had a heart attack during the meeting.

she made loud gasping sounds as she was holding on for dear life.
agent zero

yes its totally nuts.
i've never seen anything like that happen to a brother giving a talk, so i didn't know they just send someone else up to keep going for him.
seen similar things in the audience tho. at a DC an elderly brother collapsed (he was near the stage in an area where almost everyone could see him), the paramedics came took him out, a little commotion in the immediate rows, whispering everywhere else, but never missed a beat of the program.
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